To: god@heaven.com
CC: theists@earth.com
Subject: Answer me!!!
Some questions to you:
- you supposedly made us and want us to believe in you right?. why dont you come down and show urself to us ? you are all powerful. so u can very well come down to our level of vision or understanding. why all the mystery? why use miracles to give us hints ? just clearly come forward and tell us who you are and what you expect from us. this will clear all the confusion. then there will be only one religion in the world and atleast religious wars will be avoided. some ppl say that your level of existence is so high that we are not capable of meeting you. what the hell, if you are so powerful, please come down to our level and we'll have a nice session. You can pick the date and time, we'll all stop what we are doing. if u cant come down to our level, you aren't so powerful , are you?
- If you exist, who created you? some say you are absolute. you were not created, you were there before time began. does this really make any sense?
- Majority of religious practices include worshiping you through rituals. why do you want us to worship you? are we your slaves?
- you created all of us? why? for fun? or were you performing some experiment? and why did u leave us in all this mystery after ur act and disappear. are u ashamed?
- Some say u are testing us and that our deeds in this life will decide our fate in the other world. why are you testing us by the way?are we guinea pigs. why not just create perfect humans, humans who don't or are not capable of "sin". you are all powerful aren't you ?
- Why do you make your followers suffer so much? Why do they die at the hands of other religions? Can't you put a stop to this? You're omnipotent, right? Can you 'show us your stuff'? Why do you let all those Church buses crash? Why do you let all your religious followers die in plane crashes, terrorist attacks, car accidents, famines, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.? Is this part of 'Your Plan'? If you needed more Angels or something, why didn't you just create more Angels? Why do you cause so much pain down here? Are you sadistic?
- Why are their so many conflicting religions? Did you make man so screwed up that he cannot hear the 'true' word of God... yours? Every religion that exists today and every one that has existed throughout history has professed that THEIRS is the only true religion. Did you come to Earth as Zeus once? Did you make all these religions because you thought certain societies could only understand certain concepts? What about the Jews? The Muslims? The Baptists? The New Adventists? The Mormons, Hindus, Incas, Mayans, Protestants, Apaches, Buddhists, Methodists, Gideons, Greeks, Quakers? The Catholics (American, European, South American, etc.)? Were you just looking for some diversity or is it just a childish game to see who will follow the 'right' religion? Which is the 'right' religion? I'm sure many denominations would REALLY like to know that they're worshiping the 'wrong' God, don't you?
- If you created the earth and mankind, why are you letting us wipe out your creations? Is it that 'free-will' thing? We're killing this planet. Why don't you save it? Why don't you save us from ourselves? I mean, we're just doing what you made us capable of doing, right?
- Should we stop modern medicine? Are we violating your will as so many seem to think? Is it bad to fix health problems ourselves for things that you didn't seem to consider?
- Why did you give men a life-long desire for beautiful women? Is it just a test of our will and monogamy? Why do 20 year olds desire the same voluptuous women of child-bearing age as 30, 40, 50 and 100 year old men? Was it to ensure the propagation of the human race? But, doesn't this cause men to stray and covet thy neighbor's wife?
- Why do you give us the capabilities for logic and reason, yet do not want us to apply these skills when it comes to you? why didn't you make us equal to you ?
- why don't you solve your problem of making sure everyone believes in you by vaporizing a few of the non-believers in plain sight ... that would settle the matter! You see god, we're confused about why Atheists are allowed to live fulfilling, decent and happy lives, and all the while you go around tormenting, torturing, killing and persecuting those who believe in you. Isn't that kind of sick and perverted god? If the whole point of living is to die and get to heaven, why are you letting the Atheists have such a good time on earth? Why do most of your believers get their butts kicked and spend all their time killing those whose flavor of belief in god is different from the other guy? Huh god? Can you answer that one god?
- Why are people almost always the same religion as their parents are? Why is it that if you had been born to a Jewish family, you'd be Jewish; if you were born to a Muslin family, you'd be Muslin, etc. You'd still be the same person - but different religion. Could it be that religion is just brain washing? Children are easy to brain wash. In fact, we are all brain washed - that's why we have the religion we have, the politics we have, all of our belief systems - because someone brainwashed us. Not that it's always bad to be brainwashed, but we simply believe what we were taught to believe by people who believe what they were taught to believe. Why are you the religion you are? Would you be a different religion if you'd been taught a different one as a child?
20 comments:
You got the mail wrong. It's actually noreply@googlemail.com. ;p
* PikachuTrAiNeR runs
if you'd allow, i'd like my name on the senders list too.
btw - i'll be watchin this space... nice to read
You have lots of questions. You ask them as if you're asking them to human being. Did it occur to you that God not being a human being, would not be able to talk you like a human being. You're personifying the entity that is said to be God. By doing that very act, you're accepting at some level that God is some form a living thing... some form of matter or energy that has to be created from somewhere. Maybe you're wrong? Maybe with our limited intelligence we are incapable of comprehending?
If God is all powerful and if he has the power to do anything, why cant he just he approach us in a way that we can comprehend with the limited intelligence that we have. Although it would have been a lot easier if he had granted us enough intelligence to comprehend him or his existence. i don't understand why he didn't do that. Then we wouldn't have all these issues right?. why does he want to hide from the very creatures that he supposedly created ?
IMO God is a state of mind...
the right(a very relative word) answers to all those questions are those which make u happy or as we say in AI lingo ,successful.
nice blog.
cheers
See in this case,
Even if u are atheist or theist ..
Both group cannot answer each other questions by giving perfect answer ..
These thinkings without any answer will go on forever... So its useless to think ... and i feel life must be like this.
"God exists or not exists does not matter.... but it must be us to laid some rules of living provided that they must not harm anything we do not like to be hurt. And follow those principles ourselves. WE all fail in this simple thing of sticking to our statements :)."
GOD has a different definition for every1 nowadays!! which states the simple fact that its just a belief or as vinay put it a State of Mind..some look upon the character of GOD for moral support, hope , faith and stuff. If you can find all dose things in urself who needs GOD!
Its really incredible how some people managed to create fantastic mythologocial stories..worlds first ever con artists.
Damn y did i capitalise GOD :p
Keep writing manoj..nice blog.
I don't think atheists claim that they know answers to all the questions in the universe, but, atleast they have the sense to not accept something which has no tangible or practical evidence. I don't know about others, but, to me , a theory makes sense only if i understand it, OR , if i can see a
practical application or evidence for the theory at work even if i may not actually understand the theory. before the invention of electricity, if somebody came and told me that he thinks there are things called "electrons" which are roaming around in a metal wire i would say , "what non-sense ?". but, now, even though i have not seen electrons with my own eyes, i do accept their existence because i can see them lighting up bulbs, producing music from
speakers, running my comp, etc., . so, The God theory is just another theory with no predictable practical application or evidence. if tomorrow somebody comes and proves it to me that there is such an entity called God and answers atleast some of the few questions that i have put forth, I would gladly work on finding more about it. Also, i prefer the term "free thinker" rather than an atheist because atheism is just one part of free thinking.
whether "God exists or not exists" is the same as asking whether "ghosts exists" or "unicorns exist" or if "string theory is correct". the true answers to these questions may or may not matter right
now, but, what matters is, how your answers to these questions, drives the way you live your life and how it affects others lives.
As i said, if religion somehow ceases to exist, we can at least concentrate on the other("real") problems that we face as individuals or as the man kind. may be, being religious helps ppl who are weak.
but, that again is a false hope. Other than that, i dont see any sense in religion. its just a way of explaining anything you don't understand using "it was god's will". religious books are just like any other story books or novels, cooked up by some early smart people to fill in the "gaps" in their understanding of the universe and/or to gain power.
IMO God is a super-power. He/She/it (:) ) is the answer to all unanswerable questions like what caused big-bang? why gravity exists? what happens after death? and so on.
Different people perceive God from different eyes. That doesn't mean God has to be that way and should behave that way (eg. why do you expect God to come down (why do they think God lives in sky??? :) thats another perception) and answer all your questions? :P )
But, I don't think that is the reason one should not believe in God. God is a belief that can act as inner-power (How people keep faith in God in their difficult times... Imagine how they will be if they don't have anybody to look up to or anything to hope for)
Life is not about finding right answers. It is about finding answers which satisfy you.
why do u perceive (rather not perceive) as GOD having some form
It comes to u in ways u cant think
If u beleive in Luck, u Belive in GOD.
After all both are divine( or not having a logical premise) interventions
If GOD were to come and answer all the questions there would b nothing left to know
All the uncertainity would be gone
AND THAT MY FRIEND WILL BE THE END OF MANKIND
BECAUSE
it is the uncertainity in life which drives the soul into finding answers, finding solutions.
there would be no necessity of thought providing fodder for ingenious inventions.
being a predestinarian will only mean living a bovine life.
Even i had those inhibitions when it came to believing in GOD, but the belief that someone out there has an eye on you does wonders in situations one dreads to be alone.
Gr8 thoughts abt communal discord in the name of ALMIGHTY.
GOD bless you (:D)
"IMO God is a super-power"
I challenge god to do something with his "super" power to prove his existence to a normal human being like me.
"He/She/it (:) ) is the answer to all unanswerable questions".
This is exactly what i meant by filling the knowledge gap. 'its god's wish', 'thats how god made it', blah, .....
"Different people perceive God from different eyes. That doesn't mean God has to be that way and should behave that way"
So whose perception is right? Either everybody's perception is wrong or only one of the perceptions can be correct because I think Jesus , Zeus, Ganesha,etc can have serious issues co-existing together as gods.
"God is a belief that can act as inner-power (How people keep faith in God in their difficult times"
I Agree and it does work for most people. it works because the belief that there is somebody who is gonna protect you, no matter what, is quite comforting. i used to believe in it when i was a kid. but now i realized that this "inner power" can be developed even without this concept of "god". If religion was just restricted to providing inner strength, that would have been ok i guess. but now it has crept
into all areas of life and it is in a very bad state and it is disappointing.
"Life is not about finding right answers. It is about finding answers which satisfy you"
if this was the case i dont think you would be enjoying the technology that we do so today. if those scientists and engineers had not spent their whole life after finding the right answers to questions and proving theories, we would not be where we are. "Life is not ONLY about finding the right answers, its also about the pursuit of happiness".
"If u beleive in Luck, u Belive in GOD."
what does "belief in luck" mean? luck is just a word used to cover up the unpredictability of life.
"If GOD were to come and answer all the questions there would be nothing left to know, all the uncertainity would be gone".
so GOD created this world and then created us so that he can watch us solve this great jigsaw puzzle that he designed?
"it is the uncertainity in life which drives the soul into finding answers, finding solutions."
first of all, you are assuming the existence of what is called a "soul" which itself is comparable to the question of existence of god. anyways, uncertainty is exactly what makes one think. but i dont understand how religious people behave and practice all their rituals as if they are certain and know everything about god. i want them to answer atleast one or two of my questions.
octal, @September 6, 2007 6:28 AM
you contradict yourself. "Did it occur to you that God not being a human being, would not be able to talk you like a human being.". by this sentence you are limiting gods abilities. give a better defence.
letronje, @September 6, 2007 11:10 PM
couldnt agree with you more.
letronje, @September 8, 2007 4:09 AM
i find more sense in your posts than anyone elses here. like you i dont believe in rites and rituals blindly.
there is a lot of stuff which makes sense but has been religonised and has lost its original meaning in the process. for example take the month of shravan. people refrain from eating non-veg (more spec it should be fish)
because its the breeding season of fish and they replenish their numbers.(this isnt meant to get into a veg vs non veg debate).
most ppl dont know this. they blindly follow it, like the way they have led most their lives.
its true, ignorance is bliss for a lot of ppl.
i accept your views on nearly all points except to the existence of god. as you put it yourself, you wouldnt believe in anything unless you are shown evidence. i would say the very fact that we exist is proof enough. this evidence is not necessarily "practical", as in "why make us in the first place?", but it is there.(but it seems the human race wishes to take care of the latter...). however i dont believe in god the way most ppl do. not as a person or entity. i just assume hes there (based on the evidence above).
"even though i have not seen electrons with my own eyes, i do accept their existence because i can see them lighting up bulbs". you call this proof? why do you say it is electrons that are lighting it up? just because when you press the switch the bulb glows? all scientific "facts" are simply things that are observed but cannot be explained.
letronje, @September 17, 2007 4:17 AM
perception itself means different views for different people, theres no right or wrong. or perhaps you wish to rephrase.
"so GOD created this world and then created us so that he can watch us solve this great jigsaw puzzle that he designed? "
good one
PS: i'd like to know what was in the deleted post.
Also my opinions are my own, thats why they're called opinions. no offence to anyone, and if i have, i apologise.
"i would say the very fact that we exist is proof enough. i just assume he's there (based on the evidence above)."
Can you elaborate on that ? I remember somebody making this argument in a video that i had seen of a debate between "atheists" and "theists".
"All scientific "facts" are simply things that are observed but cannot be explained."
It is experimentally verified that light travels at the speed of 299792458 m / s. but, why at THAT speed, is still not known(correct me if i am wrong). Is this what you mean by "cannot be explained" ?
By the way, for those who are interested, heres the link to an article( don't know if its genuine) written by Bhagat Singh on why he is an atheist => http://www.boloji.com/spirituality/051.htm
Another link to a program that was aired on BBC called " A brief history of disbelief" =>
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v290167nBNFCMmq
letronje,
as you said yourself, " a theory makes sense only if i understand it, OR , if i can see a
practical application or evidence for the theory at work even if i may not actually understand the theory". that is what i was referring to, our existence, the age old question, who created us?
It is experimentally verified that light travels at the speed of 299792458 m / s. but, why at THAT speed, is still not known(correct me if i am wrong). Is this what you mean by "cannot be explained"
yeah... (i believe you got more to say about it..)
btw nice article...
(whether genuine or not.)
havent seen the video yet as i got no audio right now...
"our existence, the age old question, who created us?"
The sentence "somebody out there created us", does it really convey any information at all? .
Although I am no expert, The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection proposed by Charles Darwin explains it in a much more systematic and simpler way.
Here is an excerpt from the wikipedia article on him
"Darwin proposed and provided scientific evidence that all species of life have evolved over time from one or a few common ancestors through the process of natural selection.The fact that evolution occurs became accepted by the scientific community and the general public in his lifetime, while his theory of natural selection came to be widely seen as the primary explanation of the process of evolution in the 1930s,and now forms the basis of modern evolutionary theory. In modified form, Darwin's scientific discovery remains the foundation of biology, as it provides a unifying logical explanation for the diversity of life".
Although the actual origin of life on earth, and infact, the origin of the universe itself is still hazy, all we need to do is just keep trying. Do we really need stories to explain our unknowns till we figure them out ourselves ? Although any theory is as good as a story in the beginning, I think we humans are well equipped to distinguish between stories and "real" scientific theories.
some interesting wiki articles :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_a_theory_and_fact
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_evolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_life
why question god and not question anything else? can we prove we exist? it's arrogant to assume we can understand everything. the answer could be staring in our faces, but we may be incapable of understanding it.
the mark of true wisdom is when we're aware of how little we know, and more so of how limited our capacity of understanding is.
you have a long way to go before you're wise enough to understand the answers to your questions. when you're wise enough, you'll realise that these questions are meaningless. stop being a victim of your own assumptions and your eyes will be opened.
peace out :)
Although the actual origin of life on earth, and infact, the origin of the universe itself is still hazy, all we need to do is just keep trying. Do we really need stories to explain our unknowns till we figure them out ourselves ? Although any theory is as good as a story in the beginning, I think we humans are well equipped to distinguish between stories and "real" scientific theories
coming back to my earlier point, the god theory is a theory too.
you accept that the history is hazy, but you deny god and you still dont give an explanation as to why? i mean show proof from your side. i dont have the kind of proof you want, but atleast this theory answers questions rather than leaving them unanswered. true it does raise a lot more questions. so till "we are trying" remains (ie this theory is proved or some other theory is proved), the god theory is what will prevail.
ps theres a good joke on this one, dont know if you've heard it
long into the future, scientists were successful in communicating with god and had found answers to
lifes questions.
one day they decided they dont need god anymore so they went upto him and told him that they dont need him anymore.
god thought awhile and said 'lets have a test. if you can do what i can do, then i will go away'.
scientists 'yeah cool'
god:' lets make man the way i did, from the earth, the sand etc"
scientists agreed and one of them bent down to pick up some sand.
but, god said ' no, you make your own sand'
PS this is a joke so enjoy it, dont debate it.
@KRIS
"why question god and not question anything else? can we prove we exist?"
OK, Lets consider the question "do we exist?". If we do exist, I guess I can very well proceed with my other questions.
Suppose we don't exist, now what? Anyways, I dont know the precise definition or meaning of "exitence" itself.
I am questioning god because thats gonna affect my life much more and according to me it is much easier to figure out than the answer to the question "do i even exist?"
"it's arrogant to assume we can understand everything".
I am not assuming that we can understand everything. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. If we had given up, we would have still been in the stone ages.
"the answer could be staring in our faces, but we may be incapable of understanding it."
Quite possible. Still, lets try.
"the mark of true wisdom is when we're aware of how little we know, and more so of how limited our capacity of understanding is."
I know very little. But still I wanna know more. btw, How exactly do u measure the capacity of understanding?
"you have a long way to go before you're wise enough to understand the answers to your questions. when you're wise enough, you'll realize that these questions are meaningless. stop being a victim of your own assumptions and your eyes will be opened."
Which questions are meaningful then? or should I stop thinking and asking questions all together and just accept things as they are ? Please tell me what I should do to attain that level of "wisdom". Whats your take on all this?
@JC
"you accept that the history is hazy, but you deny god and you still dont give an explanation as to why? i mean show proof from your side"
Sorry dude, I don't plan to give proof for every non-existent thing in the world.
"I dont have the kind of proof you want, but atleast this theory answers questions rather than leaving them unanswered."
Which questions does it answer ? Oh, are u talking about the answers like "god made us", "its god's wish", "its your destiny",bluh, blah, etc,etc ?
"so till "we are trying" remains (ie this theory is proved or some other theory is proved), the god theory is what will prevail."
Till any of these theories is proved, all of these theories should be given equal consideration with an open mind. I mean it should not be considered a disgrace/crime/sin/abnormal to be an atheist.
@letronje,
yeah, "god made us" is the stuff i was talkin about, its kinda lame, i know.
i never said it was a disgrace/crime/sin/abnoraml. i just said till we are trying, the god theory will remain predominant. and i have given due consideration to your theory. (at least more than others have...).
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